Nancy Pelosi Says Trump ‘Knows He’s Crazy’

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House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said President Donald Trump “knows he’s crazy” in an interview where she was asked about Trump calling her “crazy Nancy.”

“I have no interest in what he calls people because he’s always projecting,” Pelosi said in an interview with Elle magazine published Thursday. “He knows he’s crazy; it’s so self-evident. Everything he calls anybody — ‘lazy,’ ‘crazy.’ Quite frankly, I don’t pay that much attention to him,” Pelosi said.

“I think it’s really a sad, sick situation,” Pelosi continued.

The entire story was a puff piece that tried to make it seem as if Pelosi is leading the country and calling all of the shots.

Pelosi and Trump are barely on speaking terms, and she very much does not want to talk about him. She has accomplished so much in life as the first female House Speaker in American history, and it annoys her that her legacy is now tangled up in his. “I don’t even think about him, to tell you the truth,” she says. “This is the most conversation I’ve had about him, certainly all day.”


The president is melting down in his White House bunker, picking petty fights on Twitter and lying to the public daily about the health crisis. And Pelosi is, basically, dealing with it all by herself. “I don’t know if people realize that she’s the one leading the government right now,” Representative Karen Bass (D-CA), chair of the Congressional Black Caucus, tells me. “We have an unstable president, we have a Senate leader who has abdicated his responsibility to the unstable president, and then we have a Speaker who’s actually leading.”

Just a few weeks prior, CNBC Host Jim Cramer called Pelosi “crazy Nancy” during an interview with her.

While discussing the stalemate in Congress passing another coronavirus relief bill, the interview went off the rails when he took a line from President Donald Trump and called Pelosi “crazy Nancy” before immediately apologizing.

“Sorry, that was the president, I have such reverence for the office, I would never use that term,” Cramer insisted.

“But you just did,” Pelosi shot back.

Cramer again insisted that he didn’t mean to insult her, adding that “it’s a travesty to ever call” her that name considering her “whole life in public service.”

Asked by CNBC’s Jim Cramer if she’d be willing to pass a “skinny” deal now and reconvene with Republicans on outstanding issues later, Pelosi fired back that “there is no later with this administration.”

“This is the opportunity. And the skinny deal is a Republican bill: That’s not a deal at all,” Pelosi said on CNBC. “They’re making a skinny — in fact, Chuck Schumer and I call it an emaciated — proposal for a massive problem.”

“We can fiscally spend the appropriate amount of money to meet the needs of the American people,” she added. “And by the way: It’s stimulus. We are a consumer economy and the more we have, whether it’s food stamps or unemployment insurance … that is stimulus to the economy.”

At the end of the interview, Cramer again tried to amend the situation.

“You know I was being facetious when I used the term involving you,” he said. “I respect you. Anyone who gives their life to public service and is Speaker of the House should not be called that name. I don’t even want to use it again.” Pelosi reassured Cramer, telling him not to “worry about that” and to “let that be your biggest problem of the day.”


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